another wolf in the crowd ([info]grayscalewolf) wrote,
@ 2003-05-21 07:30:00
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why the Internet sucks

So I thought to myself, wouldn't it be neat if you could ray-trace an impossible Escher-like scene? It's not too hard to construct an illusion that works when you look at the scene from a specific angle, like those photos of Lego versions of Escher. The trick is to create a model of impossible geometry that lets you move the camera around and view the scene from different angles.

I start thinking of ways of approaching the problem, and it doesn't seem like it would be too hard, which triggers the thought, "I bet someone's done this already." Get out Google, search for "render escher".

Hit #5 is a page at some collaborative idea factory named "halfbakery". Someone posed a similar question in April 2002, wondering about Escher-like computer games. The first comment is basically "delete this idea since it can't be done". There's some discussion, but it doesn't go anywhere. Various people add links related to Escher, but nothing particularly relevant to the question posed.

Hit #3 is a program that someone wrote specifically for rendering Escher-like impossible scenes, as an undergraduate project in computer engineering. Pretty website, animated Escher objects, citations of mathematically abstruse papers, etc.

The Escher renderer was finished and published in October 2001, half a year before the discussion at halfbakery. For some reason, more than a dozen apparently intelligent people were unable to find what I found in half a minute at Google.

I don't really understand this. It's not like I'm using any specialized research ability, it's just simple Google. I've run into similar situations several times. Maybe people don't have the right intuitive judgement of how easy it is to find things on the Internet, so they never think to look?




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[info]snowwolf42
2003-05-21 08:55 am UTC (link)
I've been similarly amazed at folks lack of "Search Skills". I find things quickly and easily; perhaps it helps to be a human thesaurus. Everyone seems to ask me to find stuff for them on the Internet... Maybe that's easier for them? And I like a challenge - like this morning, trying to find out what the rights are of a guest in a hotel.

Presumably you have the same rights as if you were renting a house, but I was curious if the hotel could prohibit basic civil rights to the use and enjoyment of the facilities.

Unfortunately this search was thwarted by the proliferation of hotel reservation sites. Searching, say, California law sites was also unproductive; it seems every single statute in the state has the word "hotel" in it. Well, almost every one. Mostly related to taxation. Surprise, surprise.

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[info]fenrirwolf
2003-05-21 09:53 am UTC (link)
Imagine my pain when, a few years ago, I did an exhaustive net search for werewolf legend data. The signal-to-noise ratio was painfully low.

Inference Find turned out to be a life saver. Too bad it's long since gone. Good meta-search engine.

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[info]grayscalewolf
2003-05-21 11:39 pm UTC (link)
I've got most of my friends trained now, they only bug me for the harder searches.

I wouldn't assume that hotel/guest is the same as landlord/tenant. Law doesn't work that way. They're not the same type of relationship. A search at nolo.com for 'hotel' has some basic info that may be relevant. Most of my other searches lead me to 'hospitality law' (subtopic 'guest rights') which is usually a course that only has a syllabus online, but there are several books on the topic. I also found some info about landlord/tenant rights in California that says that 'residents' of a hotel fall under those rules, but 'guests' do not, and the distinction between 'resident' and 'guest' has several clauses. (Google for 'hotel law tenant rights' or 'hotel law guest rights'.)

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[info]neutopian
2003-05-21 06:25 pm UTC (link)
Ya know, I often think about this when this guy comes into the muck area I hang out in, pretty much on a daily basis, and asks us the most abstract questions, like we were about.com or his personal staff or something. I suspect there's a seperate species evolving, the sort of blind helpless creature intended by Nature to occupy middle management positions. Or maybe to work at the DMV..

By the way, I am impressed by your formatting of the post and comment pages, it's so slick I'm slightly aroused as I type this. o.o

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[info]grayscalewolf
2003-05-21 10:42 pm UTC (link)
It's the standard "Generator" layout in the S2 style system. LiveJournal staff and volunteers did all the work. I just chose the colors. My goal is to spend zero time fucking with html/css/etc for myself, I already get enough fun/aggravation out of doing it for others.

Go to this page if you want to switch to S2. It's still "beta", there are various things missing still. (If you don't like it, go back to that page and change the setting back to S1, and all your old settings should still be there.)

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